In the age of Trump, Brexit, and nativism in Europe, as the political and cultural ground shifts beneath our feet, Paul Kingsnorth and Dougald Hine, co-founders of the Dark Mountain Project, gave a frank discussion about the implications for the green movement and beyond. This provided a chance to challenge clichés, challenge ourselves, and ask how our work can be relevant in what are clearly new and changing times. Recorded on Wednesday 22nd March 2017.